How the EU has made scoundrels of them all!

111 reasons Cameron must consider again before further EU treachery in Brussels tomorrow!

One hundred and eleven MPs voted last evening, in Parliament, to give the British electorate a vote on the EU, at some time in the future, in a referendum.

This was mainly a massive rebellion by eighty plus members of Cameron's own Conservative Party! The debate was preceded by a Prime Ministerial statement by  the typically arrogant appearing Cameron, it was shallow and poisonous, like a slick of high sulphur fuel oil. The Foreign Secretary, William Hague proved his equal in glib self-assurance and flawed reasoning, well deserving the suggestion by one colleague later in the debate of having experienced a Damscene conversion, on the road from Richmond Yorkshire.

Singling out individual contributions to the debate, which had some true high points of drama, well fitting the buildings' past and heritage, one must first make mention of the two Conservative PPS, who sacrificed their posts to defy the unprincipled and sordid three line whip. (Note my links are to the initial Hansard report here) Stewart Jackson and Adam Holloway.

Before the debate got under way Sir Stuart Bell made an important and telling interjection to Cameron, on a crucial point upon which I commented on this blog yesterday, as follows:

Sir Stuart Bell (Middlesbrough) (Lab): The Prime Minister rightly said that the 27 nation states will make any decision on the single market. He has not told the House that the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, has been elected president of the 17 nation states within the eurozone, with France on one shoulder and Germany on the other. The President has said that he will inform the British Government prior to any summit meetings and inform them of the results. Does the Prime Minister think that to be “informed” is the same as to be

David Nuttal Conservative Bury North (4:32pm page 46) made a convoincing case in opening the debate. Hague's inadequate six points against the motion were subsequently completely annihalated by Jacob Rees-Mogg. The Shadow Foreign Secretary, Alexander, has passed so long in close proximity to the likes of Blair and Brown, that he has ceased to convey reason with his words on the topic of Europe, presumably having suffered permanent  spritual damage from involvement with the deceits and treason undertaken by these former PMs over the EU Constitutional Treaty, EU Reform Treaty and Lisbon Treaty, all as ably aided and abetted by Margaret Beckett, David Miliband and Jim Murphy, all as fully detailed in the archives of this blog, recorded daily as the foul and deep plots were unfolded!

The highlight for me of Mr Nuttal's speech was this passage:

A staggering 84% of the current voting age population have never voted in favour of Britain’s continued membership of the EEC, never mind the European Union. Furthermore, if I were a betting man, I would wager that some of those who voted yes back in 1975 may well have since changed their minds. The Common Market has fundamentally changed in size and powers as it has been transformed into the European Union, and without the British people ever being consulted, of course.

Two Labour ladies made their normal outstanding contributions on European issues, these were Gisela Stewart (Birmingham Edgbaston) and Kate Hoey (Vauxhall) also with several well-chosen interjections. I select this passage for mention:

6.55 pm
Kate Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab): I am not sure when the Foreign Secretary has to leave, but he is going to a very important conference, the Commonwealth conference in Australia. Many people in this country believe that the Commonwealth was sold out when we joined the Common Market, and I hope he remembers that by 2050 the 55 members of the Commonwealth will have 38% of the global labour force, while the European Union, with its 27 members, will have only 5%. I hope he goes with that figure in his head to the Commonwealth conference, because then we might actually see much more attention paid to the Commonwealth.

This could have been a wonderful day for Parliament, for democracy and for the new regime—on which the coalition have to be congratulated—of the Backbench Business Committee, with its many keen members. This debate was brought about by a process involving people outside, in the United Kingdom—and let us stop talking about “Britain”, please, because when we do we ignore Northern Ireland, which when it comes to a referendum is going to be very important.

Among the always reliable stalwarts, an impassioned speech by John Redwood (Wokingham Con) was remarkable, Bill Cash (Stone Con) was close to the best I have ever seen him (which is an awful lot), and Bernard Jenkin (Harwich and North Essex Con) literally sparkled with irrefutable and accurate logic!

Probably the most shameless inntervention(s) and contribution came from a Liberal Democrat (flanked by Charles Kennedy) Martin Horwood, Chelltenham, at 7:28 pm.His party ran an election in support of an in/out referendum on the EU, reversed their stance between the Commons and the Lords to ensure the Lisbon Treaty was past into law, ran the General Election claiming support fo an in/out referendum - and now in Government, imposed their own three line whip to ensure no referendum would likely be ever forthcoming - contemptible creatures such as these do not bear further comment.

A valuable contribution, cut short by the Deputy Speaker, brilliantly illustrating how that ancient and venerable office has been degraded, was the following from Fran Field which ended as follows:

I make a plea to Members onmy own side of the House. We are getting it wrong on the issue of the representation of England and appear to be a party controlled by our Scottish colleagues. Increasingly, the question will be how England is represented in this Parliament, and so far we are on the wrong side of that debate. Again tonight, by trying to force Members into the Lobby in support of the Government stance, we are in danger of alienating many Labour voters.

When I first stood for election, the turnout was 85%.Last time, it was 60%. How have we managed to turn off 25% of the electorate? It comes down to our conduct
as politicians. We were going to make a small move by having debates that we, Back Benchers, could control, but the Government decided it would be better to clobber us with—
Mr Deputy Speaker: Order.

I wonder what he wanted to say, far more important than much else we heard, especially from the nowadays thororoughly grotesque, almost self-parodying, Scot, Sir Malcolm Rifkind!

The contributions from John Redwood and Austin Mitchell are in full on my blog Teetering Tories, linked here.

Glyn Davies, at 8:27 pm made a rambling speech which his Montgomeryshire, Conservative constituents must this morning, weigh heavily on their consciences.

Douglas Carswell (Clacton Con) began with a paragraph, that sums up well the despair and flavour of the entire evening, perhaps for once, leaving Britain's long disenfranchised voters with some small glimmer of hope:

8.41 pm
Mr Douglas Carswell (Clacton) (Con): For 40 years, we have left Europe policy to Ministers and to mandarins—to a tinyWhitehall elite. Look at the collective  mess that they have made of it. We have a fisheries policy with no fish; red tape strangling small businesses; financial regulation that suffocates the City; and now
we are being asked to spend billions of pounds bailing out a currency that we never even joined. We have lurched from one bad deal with Brussels to the next,
and fromone disastrous round of negotiations to another. That is the price we pay for leaving it to Ministers and mandarins to decide our Europe policy. It is time to
trust the people. Today, every Member of this House faces a straightforward choice. They can either vote to give people a referendum on the EU or they can vote not to trust the people.

At least, for the first time, for many years, we can this morning count more than one-hundred true democrats in the House of Commons during last evening!

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The partly justified glorification of Gadaffi's gruesome end.

Britain's weak and wimpish establishment have adopted a 'holier than thou' approach to the events surrounding the capture, death and aftermath of Colonel Gadaffi. Is it perhaps partly because they also involve themselves in similar manipulations and distortions to contort the very meaning of the term democracy, that they fear one day they may share a similar fate?

It seems to have been forgotten that they only belatedly acted, at the main prompting of President Sarkozy of France, when a complete bloodbath of thousands of innocent civilians was about to take place in Benghazi.

The citizens of Misratah faced months of vicious bombardment by Gadaffi's merceneraries, can we not understand the human urge to stand in line and see with their own eyes, if not digitally record, that the individual who caused decades of untold misery to your country, your family and yourself, is indeed really and truly dead? Read here.

Well I have some news for the leaders of the West, busy accomplishing similar democracy destroying devices all across Europe. People do notice, we are not stupid - we see and note what you have accomplished!

What is planned in Westminster, for tomorrow, with a three line whip being imposed by Britain's three main party Leaders on their MPs in the Commons, is a device designed to set in place, no doubt hopefully they believe for all time, the destruction of Britain's Parliament, that our leaders, after forty years of devious deceit and conspiracy, have now almost totally accomplished.

Any MPs voting against the granting of a referendum to Britain's voters, on Britain's continued subjugation to the clearly collapsing EU, must today and tomorrow be made aware, that if they seek to gain further continuing power, perks and pensions from thus betraying their supposed loyalty to democratic independent rule, they should best think again. Breaking such slender strands of loyalties to Parties concerned sloely with their own amassing of extra power and wealth, should be as nothing when compared to destroying our rights carefully acquired, treasured and died for down the centuires!

Britons, as a civilised people, must abhor what has happened over Gadaffi's death, while understanding the motives and raw human emotion behind such acts. Britain's MPs, betraying their historic duty in Parliament tomorrow, must do so in the full knowledge, that the people of Britain will eventually ensure that they lose all that they seek to gain from such treachery!

This October 24th will be a watershed for British democracy, imposing the three line whip has ensured that such must become the case. It is an act of extreme arrogance and stupidity, it fittingly illustrates the natures of the completely contemptible scum who act as front men and women for those who now actually govern us from abroad and sometimes even at home.

Tory traitors - EUstice and Heaton-Harris

The Conservative Party has a long list of traitors to Britain, over the EU, among their ranks. Autonomous Mind tips apart EUstice quite effectively in a posting linked here and another here.

Heaton-Harris is another, upon whom less is available on the internet. I repeat below a posting from last August in which I sought to alert the British public to this particular dangerous specimen:

Chris Heaton-Harris MP - a Fierce Eurosceptic!

The description of Mr Heaton-Harris MP, former sidekick, when an MEP, to Roger Helmer MEP for the East Midlands, (ten years at the trough then,) and presently Conservative MP for Daventry, came from his own web-site, the exact quote:

"A fierce Eurosceptic, he hopes his experience in Brussels will be useful to any future Conservative government." (Editor's note, this phrase appears to have been removed while preparing this posting, but it was there as I began!)

What does that mean exactly, this fierce euroscepticism? One can read about his work for the institution which he claims to be fiercely doubtful about, how he worked to further its workings over ten years, while trousering all the proceeds from the useless talking shop that is the EU Parliament, which some UKIP MEPs have reckoned can be worth over £1 million per year, from here.

So much for that link, with all the false PR, what form does his fierce euroscepticism, presumably of the kind on which I blogged first thing this morning, really take?

Well back last May, Mr Heaton-Harris, tabled a wrecking motion in Parliament, designed to ensure that British taxpayers would receive no relief from the EU Bailouts! I presumed at the time it was at the behest of the Conservative Whips, Heaton-Harris having been one such in the EU monstrosity.

I blogged about it at the time, but could not bring myself to mention his name, thus providing more of the kind of notoriety he clearly craves. The post (the day after a report on the actual debate, which I titled "Our Parliament. Whipped into whingeing worthlessness!") is linked here, it contained this description of the then unnamed Chris Heaton-Harris as follows:

If you wish to see the individual who finally sunk Parliament's long historical ability to hold the executive to account for their expenditures, you can see him without dipping into and out of the debate, he is in the lower left hand corner of the screen as Mark Reckless MP, makes his opening remarks

To read the Hansard report on his performance, click here. Fierce eurosceptic, maybe, but surely, in all he has achieved, apparently solely working to promote the EU?

Labels: Anti-EU, Chris Heaton-Harris, Eurosceptics

The Weekend Dawns - Two days for your MP to grasp the basic EU truths!

MPs in Westminster, do not really work on Fridays!

MPs in Westminster hardly work at all, on any day of the year!

MPs at Westminster have handed most of their responsibilities for their constituents, to the European Union, they pretend they are responsible, but in truth thay have given away almost all of that which you voted to them.

In the main - Westminster MPs are low-life filth!

This weekend, we have two days, before the Commons vote on Monday, to let each of our MPs, learn personally, that if they again vote to deprive the people of Britain of a say regarding our Country's role in the collapsing EU, yet again, WE WILL NEVER! EVER VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN!

If they believe that fact is true, it matters not what their party whips may require - read here. MPs are scared, because they know the full facts of what they have done!

TALK TO YOUR MP! This weekend! - Phone and phone again until you do, email them, text them, let them know we want a say in our own affairs once more!

MPs are afraid, that fact is now our only card to play for regaining our democracy!

Stewart Jackson PPS to ex EU-sceptic Owen Paterson prepared to quit!

The first of the 'kept' vote to threaten to quit over the Governments'  EU referendum vote, is Stewart Jackson, according to a BBC report linked here.

Pressure on all MPs must be maintained and continued from their registered voters within their own constituencies. If enough PPS decide their present salary is not worth the risk of long term unemployment, then soon Junior Ministers and eventually Cabinet members could be forced to concede the principle of a referendum.

If the numbers revolting get enough momentum and weight, then the risks of rebellion will decrease and the day could potentially be won on Monday.

Chaos continues apace on the Continent where rumours are now rife that Sunday's EU Council meeting could well be cancelled.

Lobby Parliament on Monday

According to a tweet from O'Flynn of the Express, permission has been granted for a petition of Parliament (an insult that it is required) from 2:30 pm on Monday afternoon, by the People's Pledge, from St Stephen's entrance of the Palace of Westminster.

15 Potential Tory rebels from Ministers and Whips - Guido Fawkes

The link to the Guido Fawkes report is here.

Only fifteen rebels from the kept vote shows how venal the Conservative Party has become!

Bruges Group all day Rally Saturday 22nd October

The Case for an EU Referendum
All-day Congress in the Grand Hall, Methodist Central Hall, Westminster (see map) Saturday 22nd October 2011, 10:30am - 5:30pm

To raise the profile of the demand for an EU referendum in the run-up to a potential vote in Parliament before the end of the year, on Saturday 22nd October the People's Pledge will be hosting around 2,000 referendum supporters and activists at an all-day Congress for an EU Referendum. The event is expected to be the biggest of its type since the Referendum Party's election rallies in the late 1990s.

As well as keynote speakers from across the political spectrum, and even across the divide of opinion on Britain's EU membership, there will be panel discussions about the state of opinion within the Labour and Conservative parties, together with two set-piece debates about whether there should be an EU referendum and whether we should be in or out of the EU.

35 speakers are now confirmed to participate, including:

• Keith Vaz MP, Labour former Minister for Europe
• David Davis MP, Conservative former Shadow Home Secretary
• Bob Crow, General Secretary of the RMT Union
• Zac Goldsmith MP, Conservative
• Kate Hoey MP, Labour
• Jenny Jones AM, Green party, candidate for London mayor
• Daniel Hannan MEP, Conservative
• Graham Stringer MP, Labour
• Lembit Opik, former Liberal Democrat MP
• Douglas Carswell MP, Conservative
• Marta Andreasen MEP, UKIP, former EU chief accountant
• Cllr Steve Radford, President of the Liberal party

To see a full list of participants and the provisional running order for the day click here (pdf)

The People's Pledge are pleased to offer two free tickets to Bruges Group members (normally £5 each). To secure your tickets, please call Chris Bruni-Lowe at the People's Pledge on 020 3427 5624 or print out this email and bring it to the registration desk on the day - please confirm you will attend by emailing mail@peoplespledge.org.

EU referendum vote advanced to Monday 24th October

Probably as a result of worries that constituents will pressurise their weak and mainly spineless, money-grabbing MPs into voting the proper and patriotic way, the Government has brought forward the debate on a European referendum to next Monday.

Time is short, threaten your MP with future and permanent loss of your vote TODAY!

Commons EU Referendum vote for 27th October.

Douglas Carswell MP has tweeted that there will be a vote in the House of Commons in nine days time - with no wriggle room he asserts - although it will of course be non-binding on this appalling government!

The question is at present planned to be voted upon as follows:

"This house calls upon the government to introduce a bill in the next session of parliament to provide for the holding of a national referendum on whether the united kingdom:

A) should remain a member of the European Union on the current terms;
B) leave the european union; or
C) re-negotiate the terms of its membership in order to create a new relationship based on trade and co-operation"

If you agree that our country can no longer afford to be subjugated and ripped off by the corrupt Continentals for any longer, please make clear to your MP how you expect him to vote.